I got it working. I am now researching how best to automate a daily backup. My plan is to do a full disk mirror once a week or every two weeks and then a daily backup of my una site. Is there a script that will take care of this where the maintenance message will be displayed while this is happening? I haven't installed the patches yet as well as the spacenook. I just successfully completed an installation with apps visible. I don't want to go through what I went through before and want to do a backup before installing those patches and spacenook. thanks...Mark