Dear Una Core Team & 3rd party Devs

Dear Una team, dear 3rd party devs,

right now we have UNA 13.1.0.B2 - great to be part of the dev of UNA. The UNAverse of CoreTeam and 3rd party devs - right now we have majors like jerome, aqb, expertC and msSol (+ some others, but not that involved.)

Every update to a new una core version is some kind of lottery: Will the site stay stable or will the Core update break something? That risk is OK for testing, but it could be a mess for live sites.

So please just some tiny questions to understand the dev circle and the communication about the dev cirvle of UNA::

  1. Are the 3rd party module devs involved in the update circle of UNA?
  2. Do they know in advance what the Core Changes will be?
  3. Do the 3rd party devs have any time schedules provided by the CoreTeam concerning the update circles and timing?

Thanks, peter

PS: A solution could be a site for (premium) members, hosted by UNA in UNA cloud, where the actual Core & all Modules of all devs are ready for testing.

I think we have many members with excellent UNA sklills to admin this site... that is of course just a first idea, we could work out how to go with this. I'm sure all 3rd party devs would be happy to give ONE licence to this test site. ...

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    • After X hours of work and a lot of translations we lost everything thanks to 3rd party Devs ... after experience I made a test server with a clean installation of UNA without any modifications.. now I will know for sure if the problem is in the module or not and only then I'll decide if I'll release it to the live network.

      I think that everyone who has a live network should do the same, it will save you a lot of time and work..if the test server goes down, the world won't collapse, but the live network?

      Last but not least, it is important not to believe everything the dev tells you, but to verify it independently.

      I've never had a problem with AQB in that regard..on the contrary, Jerome's modules have given me gray hair

      • @Peter I think there is a lack of communication between the UNA team and 3rd party devs which results in some 3rd party modules breaking whenever UNA updates. That's not good for us. Also 3rd party devs suffer from it as it makes their work difficult. @Andrey Yasko @Alex T⚜️

        • Thank you for raising this Peter. I appreciate that updates can be unpredictable. We do test quite a lot and recently started running automated tests on all commits, but of course there are many sites with various configurations that we can’t account for. As you know there are two update channels - production and development. All beta and rc versions are in development channel and they are more likely to be risky. Often that’s the only way for us to move fast - it’s a trade off between releasing early and releasing stable. In that sense production channel is actually quite conservative.

          We definitely need to communicate more with devs and operators using development channel.

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