Twilio and spammer

Yes but Alex, he does not need a hundred if I understood correctly, once I deleted his account, he can use again the same number, and recreate an account, you confirm that?

Alex, if there is no better solution, I'll do it like that. BUT! You still have to know that the problem I'm talking about is not the same as the problem you know from time to time here or on boonex.com.
It's very different, it's spam. I'm talking about the crooks of the Ivory Coast, based in Abidjan. Those Alex, you do not know how to get rid of them. They represent more than 50% of my listings despite stop spam forum. They come back again and again, with other email addresses, other ip via proxies. They have all the strings, it is the plague these people there.
In addition, 50% of my bill at Twilio will be for these people!
Their favorite targets are dating sites because they make scam to feelings.
Frankly, I'm afraid to be in real conditions, because if I have to keep all their accounts, I will not find myself there.
By the way, where did the "Delette Spamm ..." button go?
You said a lot of times that you're going to make a simple, I guess easier than Dolphin ... Well, in many ways it's true, but on this one, admit that it's a lot more complicated , and especially significantly less effective.
From where my idea. It takes a simple solution from the profile to get rid of an account and all its contents, it is important, but in addition, Twilio is the ideal tool to prevent them from coming back, they will never know how to get hold of numbers as easily as email addresses.
And I do not think it would be very complicated for you to stop this. Thank you

Also, what is the reason I should keep an account without a profile? When I delete a profile, it should check if profile = 0 then delete the account also. If profile ≠ 0 then it does not delete the account. It is not possible?

No Alex, I can not tell you yet, since I do not use Una yet in real condition (I assure you that I am happy to be able to do it), I can currently only talk about my experience under dolphin. Note that it's my dolphin experience that makes me write everything I've written here on una.io from the beginning.
Now in Dolphin, with S.T.P, each couple ip address, pseudo mail address is definitively "Out" since directly stored at STP.
Then, if they try to re-register, before registration, the STP com is interrogated and the registration is refused if positive test.
You say "Delette Spammer" is equivalent to "Delette with content", do you mean that the data is also transferred to STP and controlled at registration as in Dolphin? If so, is it a good point that I did not know, you confirm that it works the same way?
If that's the case, then I agree with you, it's the same. Happy that it is so. So I'm already a little reassured.
But despite this, they change, ip, email address and keep coming back. However, I have seen a decrease in their activity since you joined STP, so it is not used as you expected when you did.
With Twilio, the idea is that we have a good way to neutralize them effectively, the same principle as STP in fact, but internally with something they can not easily change. It is a shame not to use it.
I will not use Twilio if it is not so, simply because I know in advance that these people will cost me a fortune, a little more than 50% of the checks. I understand what you are telling me, there are sites where it is not worth it, but I assure you that it is my biggest problem, sorting between real and false profiles is what takes me the most time.

Baloo, with your dolphin site, why don't u remove any function for the standard level to make any post, comments and insert any like until you check by the email they use whether they are spammers or not. Many use emails that can be tracked in Google. If the visitor is a real person then u change their membership if they are spammers, u block their ip. It can save you a lot of time and you can send a message to spammers that they can not go to your site and spam your entire site. You can provide a brief description in your about or privacy data of what your site does to prevent spammers. Just saying that's all. You can also include that your site apologizes for any delay in confirming accounts, as a matter a fact u can include it in the email that is sent out to new accounts.

Thank you, but as I said, my problem is not so much the tracker, Anton has provided me with good tools for that, my problem is to prevent them from coming back. blocking ip is useless, they change ip more easily than they change folders, ditto for email address. You have to be aware of one thing. Feeling scams report to the most talented of them 70 to 85000 $ per year. When you know that, you understand why they are sticky like bees on syrup.
Do not think that I am the only one and read this.

Facebook lists more than 260 million fake accounts.
12% of the profiles are false
Figures that have something to turn out, but the social network of Mark Zuckerberg must also face an increase in the number of "Fake Accounts", duplicate profiles or false. According to Facebook, 10% of accounts, or 200 million, are duplicates and 60 million accounts are false (2-3%).
This increase has been reduced from 6% to 10% for duplicate profiles and from 1% to 2-3% in the number of false accounts, due to the introduction of a "new methodology" that includes "better signals" on which Facebook can rely.
With 200 million, "Fake Accounts" are the third most represented country on Facebook.
A big problem for Facebook, but also for Twitter or Google, as the New York Times reveals. The famous American media takes a study of Zachary Elwood ...

Source : https://www.presse-citron.net/facebook-recense-plus-de-260-millions-de-faux-comptes-doublons/

Or this ...
Social Media: 437,165 Online Scams in 2017!
Do online scams become more lucrative than phone scams?
The ZeroFox study also provides a rather useful overview of the tactics used by crooks. One of the preferred methods of cybercriminals is to pretend to be an official financial institution, such as a bank or an insurance service. Hackers can also usurp others with identities, so be careful. For this scam to work, crooks will have to build credible identities. So that their victim does not suspect anything, they will work on their online presence, via an Instagram account, Twitter or Linkedin.
Once equipped with credible digital identities, the scammer will initiate the conversation with his victim, via Messenger or via Direct Messages depending on the platform. Aided by his later work and a fake website, he has no trouble convincing his prey of the veracity of his claims. Its potential victims are mainly those who are already in the financial world and who share with the false profile created by the pirates, centers of common interests, but they also target the more naïve and gullible users, such as people elderly.

Source : http://escrocs-virtuels.over-blog.com/2018/05/arnaques-sur-facebook-et-instagram.html

I can assure you that the problem is worse for me, not in number of course but in proportion, because it is a dating site, it is the target n ° 1 because many people are suffering because fresh rupture and therefore fragile, they know it very well!  I did not bring this idea to bother the world, as you see.

Holy shoots!!!

Sorry Alex, my translator worked badly, yes I talked about Stop Spam Forum.
Ok without the key yes, but if I enter the key here, then it works exactly the same way as in Dolphin?

Key?? Where can that key be retrieved? If needed to prevent spam.

Here :

Baloo, that picture above is from your dolphin site or your UNA site? I have different.

No Will, he is in Dolphin and in Una, look in "Antispam".

Will do, thank you Baloo!!

Ok, I registered and was provided with key, I entered the key on my site and saved, thank you for all the help!!

So "Delete Spammer" is different from "Delete with content" ...
What is the requested key for? Why not pick up this good idea?

Thank you for taking my request into consideration

So as of now, what is the best way to keep any unwanted accounts..(spam, scam, hackers, duplicate accounts, etc......?

This is the problem I was raising Will, not much, but I asked AQB to adapt this module. It is very useful to me in dolphin ...

For example, it highlights, all accounts with the same ip and many other things, it is a major piece in my defense system.

Hello Alexey, for AMS, you know you can put me a copy warm, I look forward to it. :-)
I look forward to seeing your points system too.

It's cool, the defense is getting organized :-)

What is the status of this.  I've seen great ability in other platforms of eliminating and blocking troublemakers.  Has any progress been made? 

Hello Guyz,

I have some questions about Twilio:

1) In the Phone number field on the UNA page, where the user enter his phone number to send the verification code to, is it possible to have pre-populate (pre-defined) country code before the phone number (exemple: +1 for USA)? The user will only have to enter the remaining part of his phone number. I have seen it on many websites and Mobile Apps. It's a great spam protection and it prevents unwanted user registration, specially for regional or country specific websites. 

Example: If a site is an Australia-based website (restricted to people, services and products in Australia only) and the phone number field is pre-populated with the Australia country code +61, only phone numbers from Australia can be entered and verified. It is one of the best way to prevent anyone outside of Australia to register.

2) On the Twilio website (pricing), I can see many plans (Programmable Messaging, Notify, Authy, Verify etc). I am kinda confused. What is the right plan to suscribe to in order to make the 2FA feature available on a UNA site? Is it the Authy, Verify or maybe another plan?

3) Can we set up Twilio on UNA and use it for Phone verification upon account registration only and not for the 2FA in every login?

Thanks