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A request to rename 'Black Lists' has been denied several months ago.

GitHub, Apple, Linux, Android, and many more... announced to change(d).

The term 'Black Lists' has negative connotations and can be seen as offensive when referring to people based on their race or ethnicity. Therefore, it's advisable to avoid using this term in any context that could be perceived as discriminatory or insensitive. Instead, consider using alternative phrasing such as...

Allow list/Disallow list

Pass list/Deny list

Permitted list/Restricted list

Inclusion list/Exclusion list

Our Deaf co-workers are Blacks, Natives, and People of Colour. This is embarrassing, please change.

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For Whoever Object,

Usually are white males. Time to get y'all schooled...

You go by the first coined in computing? Come on,... look further in history of realities.

The first recorded usage of "blacklist" was during "the time of mass enslavement and forced deportation of Africans to work in European-held colonies in the Americas".

Someone addressed me "Karen"? Bwahaha... sorry, wrong name. Y'all put your wigs on. Game on, "ladies"! African American has been around since 338,000 years ago via DNA. Origin of DNA 'Eve' roughly 230,000 years ago. Aboriginals 80,000 years ago and oldest surviving food cultures 65,000 years ago. Slavery begun around 11,000 years ago. Roman Empire begun 2,051 years ago. Blame Christianity (religion begun 1,993 years ago), Islam (religion begun 1,413 years ago) and Judaism (religion begun 2,558 years ago). Roman Empire fell in year 476. During Middle Ages, pieces together and created Bible. Bible stated Adam and Eve happened around 6,000 years ago? Jesus' white horse's manure in their mouths and they all came from Mediterranean (Northern African/Southern Europeans/Middle Easterners). Yup, Romans were white supremacy... now the very same type (whitewash, control and money) were/are happening here in Americas and Australia. Again, slavery in America started in 1619? Blame them but mostly Christianity. Don't forget, idiot Puritans/Pilgrims captured any variant from the category of the norm was grounds for witchcraft or sorcery, that includes Deaf people with sign language(s). Today, there are over 730,000 signers, most still struggle with verbal people. I have no respect for bible/quran/torah, genocides, audism, racial and gender bias. In Satan We Trust, affirming our Constitutional Rights. Hail Satan!

Offense? Good! What did the European colonies do? They were illegal immigration in both lands and islands. Along with five centuries... forced displacement, ethnic cleansing, genocide 80-90 millions Natives. Master/Slave with Blacks in America and Aboriginals in Australia. Even today with police 'power' over civilians. Hell no, no one is above the law, period. First peoples have rights. Deaf peoples have rights. Women have rights. Black peoples have rights.

To run for countries:

India have their own race. China have their own race. Japan have their own race. Africa have their own race. Americas and Australia races taken away. All blood of European peoples, BACK THE XXXX OFF. You were/are limited to white corporate institutions. I empathised y'all. Still want white privileges? Go back to Europe. Scram! Aboriginal Leaders should be the ones to run for their land and islands. Native Chiefs should be the ones to run for this land and islands.

There is a reason why German-Language Amish people called American people "English." If you don't know American Sign Language, therefore, you are NOT an American, you are still an "English." Same goes for Australian, you are not a dinky di Australian, you are still an "English." Accept it hard. End of the discussion. Like I stated, "Just Shut Up & Cooperate".

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Here are a couple of rightful Chiefs of Turtle Island...

"Hear me, people:

We have now to deal with another race - small and feeble when our fathers first met them, but now great and overbearing.

Strangely enough they have a mind to till the soil and the love of possession is a disease with them.

These people have made many rules that the rich may break but the poor may not.

They take their tithes from the poor and weak to support the rich and those who rule."

Chief Sitting Bull : Hunkpapa Lakota

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Different Tribe, Different Language...

"Crowfoot stood and watched as the white man spread many one dollar bills on the ground.

“This is what the white man trades with; this is his buffalo robe. Just as you trade skins, we trade with these pieces of paper.”

When the white chief had laid all his money on the ground and shown how much he would give if the Indians would sign a treaty, Crowfoot took a handful of clay, made a ball out of it and put it on the fire. It did not crack. Then he said to the white man, Now put your money on the fire and see if it will last as long as the clay. The white man said, No…. my money will burn because it is made of paper. With an amused gleam in his eyes the old chief said, Oh, your money is not as good as our land, is it? The wind will blow it away; the fire will burn it; water will rot it. But nothing will destroy our land. You don’t make a very good trade.

Then with a smile, Crowfoot picked up a handful of sand from the river bank, handed it to the white man and said, You count the grains of sand in that while I count the money you give for the land. The white man said, I would not live long enough to count this, but you can count the money in a few minutes. Very well, said the wise Crowfoot, our land is more valuable than your money. It will last forever. It will not perish as long as the sun shines and the water flows, and through all the years it will give life to men and animals, and therefore we cannot sell the land.

It was put there by the Great Spirit and we cannot sell it because it does not really belong to us.

You can count your money and burn it with a nod of a buffalo’s head, but only the Great Spirit can count the grains of sand and the blades of grass on these plains. As a present we will give you anything you can take with you, but we cannot give you the land.”

Chief Crowfoot : Blackfoot Confederacy

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Ugly Facts...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_genocide_in_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Indigenous_Australians

https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/black-history-milestones

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plains_Indian_Sign_Language

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Native_American_leaders_of_the_Indian_Wars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Australian_Indigenous_Voice_referendum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacklisting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacklist_(computing)

White Supremacy Since the Invasion...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Australia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Canada

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heads_of_state_of_Mexico

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States

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    • First, let me assure you that this comes with absolute respect and appreciation of any, every and all races, ethnicities and nationalities. The term "blacklist" has been a long standing convention in software design, and any race-related connotation are completely unintentional. I do understand that once this connection is drawn it may be perceived as reinforcing wrong ideas of racial hierarchy, however. So, respectfully, I personally believe it's one of those things that was not a problem until someone decided to make it a problem, and so now it is indeed a problem. It's unfortunate and wasteful. Words have different meanings in different contexts and forcing unrelated contexts just creates noise. Never in my mind I would think associate a word "blacklist" with a person of dark complexion, or "whitelist" with, say, a caucasian race. It's not something that is supposed to mean "a list of black something..." but rather a "a not-active/allowed/approved list". Much like blackhole is called black because there's no light reflection, which is what we call "black". Personally, I think it was wrong to start calling people black, white, brown in the first place. I know I'm not "white" - I'm a very pale shade of brown. In any case, I don't think it's a feature that defines me, or should be considered as defining for anyone.

      In any case, since this is now an issue, we will schedule a change to "Blocklist" for a future update.

      • Exactly my thoughts. No one can actually be white or black...we shouldn't be defined by colors in the first place: as if I was ask my opinion I would say that the main argument should be about defining races by colors just to prove a damn point is totally offensive as people generally tend to call Africans blacks meanwhile we have races in Africa with similar skin colors with some in Europe and vice versa. Also as we have mixed skin colors within a tribe or race as no race has an entire fixed skin colors of citizens so why generalized them all by just a color.. some damn fallacy! Nonetheless..if any decide to create an issue out it or decide to be dumb about the actual meaning which shouldn't be a problem in the first place if there were no color-defining race, then terms like blacklist especially being used in a social construct or community can actually imply listing people by their colors.. which is not only controversial but offensive in the context of a user who actually agrees with a color-defining race terminology.

        But, then since we cannot ascertain who actually agrees with this color-defining race terminology or not...or who actually agrees to stick with the actual meaning of blacklist or not....or who actually thinks it's controversial in the first place or not, then @Andrey Yasko conclusive view should be the best practice for a social community.👌

        • If UNA does not remove this anti white racist post, I am about to unleash my words with wraith and malice against a ignorant racist individual, and I promise, as a person who publicly debates woke cancel culture, people will be mad and feelings will be hurt.

          Rename it why? It does not need renamed.

          Polyglot can change anything this RACIST PIECE OF SHIT wants it to say.

          If this entire message is not removed I'll spend my precious time somewhere else, because I WILL NOT SUPPORT ANY COMPANY WHO SUPPORTS AND BENDS TO RACISTS - WHETHER BLACK OR WHITE. I'M A FUCKING HUMAN BEING WHO DOESN'T SUBSCRIBE TO NEW AGE CANCEL CULTURE BS! REMOVE THIS FUCKING POST.

          • I do have to agree with @Wise that this post is pretty racist and inappropriate.

            While I think it is incredibly silly to change the name of blacklists, a term that is obviously not race related, in order to satisfy @Kit Cloudkicker, who is desperate to feel important in any way they possibly can, I don't really care. Change it so they can shut up and move on to bothering other people so they can feel warm and fuzzy and brag to their equally annoying friends that they have now made a difference in the world by being obsessed with race and being a negative energy on so many people.

            Can we please get back to work on things that ACTUALLY matter now?

            • One race. The HUMAN race. Actually, ANY list can be viewed as discriminatory and cause hurt feelings.

              Thankfully, there are many forums on the internet where discrimination can be addressed...

              • For AQBSoft/UNA
                A request to rename 'Black Lists' has been denied several months ago.

                In addition and as an emphasis, I still think that this shouldn't be a major issue on whosoever finds 'blacklist' controversal...as Una is built for Independent networks and each network or site owners can change terms in polyglot (frontend studio) or xml file (code base) as they so desire in order to align with their choice of terms in their community. One last thing to note is that, the blacklist mod is a third party mod (even though the members are still part of the Una team) and the developer @AQB Soft clearly named the mod as they deem fit before being made public for sales. This would imply that every buyer clearly is fine with the naming before purchasing....but then again the beauty of Una is that "if you don't like it, then you change and rename for your own network" as deem it without the need to conflict with other buyer's who actually finds it okay with the developers choice of terms.

                • It is a non issue. No one is actually worried about it. I don't even think Kit is actually worried about it, they just want to feel important and this is how they are finding their identity in this world right now. It's trendy to try to find things like this and be the one that changed it.

                  This is what we like to call a "first world problem." Life is so good that they have to search for issues and create victimhood. It is a practice for weak, small-minded people.

                  • I don't see any need to remove the post. It's fine. People come with opinions, we talk, we figure it out. And just like you said, if someone doesn't like the end result of the conversation, we still give the tools and the license to do things whichever way they choose. Fighting cancel culture starts from not cancelling.

                    • Some of youse might reckon I'm referring to...

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                      Naw, that's IP... which is perfectly fine because it's a thing. And blackhole is a thing.

                      Now I am referring to...

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                      Aye, that's member... which is not fine because it's people.

                      Erm, Polyglot is not enough. I bet you did not reckon of URL.

                      You can tell me to shut up, but you can't hush my frisky hands in American Sign Language and International Sign kept going on. You don't understand and you're angry? Not my problem!

                      Beware of Cultural Appropriate:

                      You need CBD toilet papers to keep calm your arse down, (middle finger in Japanese Sign Language - see red letters for meaning in the gif below)!

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                      I ain't special, shit... I ain't narcissist. Am simply pointing out and helping AQBSoft's module to be more neutral. Is it wrong of me as ONE person as a minority fighting to ask for a change FOR THE COMMUNITY? I think not. You're welcome, Studio Members! And, thank you UNA!

                      • Honestly, it's ridiculous to think that anyone is judged based on the color of their skin, the name of anything, or where they come from. People are judged by their actions and the kind of person they are at heart.

                        Maybe things like that happened in the past, but those were the actions of ignorant individuals. AQB has good people, and there was never any racist intent behind the name of the module. There is no need to change anything — 'Blacklist' is a perfectly acceptable name for the vast majority of people. Only a small number have an issue with it, and their priorities are often not where they should be.

                        This entire post is about nothing. Just delete it.

                        • What about Black money? ( lol )

                          This are pointless discussions in my opinion.

                          It's like black or dark is bad, People with Darker skinn colours can dance, they have rythm.

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